DIY Magnetic Folding Shelf Brackets
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Page 1: Overview & Step 1
Page 2: Step 2: Prepare & Glue Magnets
Page 3: Step 3: Magnet Coating
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Understanding Magnetic Field Strength Relative to Distance
Inverse Square Law (and Magnetic Field Strength)
Magnetic Field strength follows the Inverse Square Law (same as gravity, light, sound, etc.) which states that intensity equals the inverse of the square of the distance from the source. As you move farther away from the source of the field, the field lines spread out over a larger area, causing the field strength to decrease but magnet field strength doesn’t drop off in a linear manner as distance increases. If you double the distance from the magnet, the strength doesn’t half, it reduces to 25%. This makes intuitive sense if you have basic understandings of circle area to diameter ratios as engineers, electricians and plumbers do. If you double the diameter of a pipe how much more water can it carry, double or quadruple? How much more volume or area do you have by doubling the diameter of the pipe? Don’t do math, just think it through. Look at circle diagrams below if needed to intuitively understand.
How this pertains to my Magnetic Brackets.
To reduce the chance of magnets detaching from bracket, we want the magnets glued to the bracket to have a stronger magnetic attraction to the bracket than to the mounting surface (elevator controller, panel door, etc.). Taking advantage of the Inverse Square Law, we can accomplish this by making certain that the paint and clear coat layers are thicker than the layer of glue between the magnets and the bracket. If desired we can weaken the mounting force by adding layers of clear coat to fine tune to our preference.
Concentrated Near Fields vs Broad Far Fields.
We can manipulate magnetic fields by configuring the poles of an array of magnets. For our purposes we want a strong magnetic attraction close to the bracket to hold it to a surface. We don’t need or want those magnetic fields to travel far from the bracket where they could cause damage, interfere or just be a nuisance by attracting other objects. Alternating the poles of the magnets keeps the magnetic flux lines closer and more dense at the surface of the magnetic vs poles facing the same direction. This increases the strength of the magnetic Near Field and reduces the strength of the magnetic Far Field.
We can further increase the strength of the Near Field while reducing the Far Field by increasing the pole count by using more, smaller magnets. The same area of magnetic surface is significantly stronger up close by using smaller magnets but the magnetic fields don’t extend as far away.
See scale magnet diagram of three magnetic configurations (1/2” x 1/2” x 1/16”), ( 1/4” x 1/4” x 1/32”) & (1/8” x 1/8” x 1/32”). Fields are approximated for illustrative purposes.
Cool video distorting the near and far fields for “seemingly” impossible results: https://youtu.be/h69bbH1PwU4
Pull Force of magnets:
1/2”x1/16″ N52 4.45lbs (1,625 Gauss Surface Field)
1/4”x1/32″ N52 0.79lbs (1,625 Gauss Surface Field) (0.79 x 4 = 3.16lbs)
1/8”x1/32″ N52 0.3lbs (3,030 Gauss Surface Field) (0.3 x 4 = 1.2lbs)
Total Pull Force:
1/2”x1/16″ (8 magnets x 4.45 = 35.6lbs per bracket)
1/4”x1/32″ (60 magnets x 0.79 = 47.4lbs per bracket)
1/8”x1/32″ (280 magnets x 0.3 = 84lbs per bracket)
*note the 1/2″ is 1/16″ vs 1/32″ when evalutation pull force and strength.
(Qty 4) 1/8” magnets have the same surface area of (1) 1/4” magnet but are 51% stronger.
(1) 1/4” = 0.79lbs; (4) 1/8” = 0.3lbs x 4 = 1.2lbs. (51.9% more)
Note that these pull forces are not complete indicators of shelf load capacity when comparing the 1/2” x 1/16” magnets that have 6 of the 8 total magnets mounted at the top (where most of the pull force is needed due to leverage). It’s a better indicator of the strength of 1/4” vs 1/8” because both have magnets all the way down but it still can be a little misleading. Though 1/8” config has 77% more total pull force than the 1/4” config (for reasons already explained), that doesn’t mean it will hold 77% more weight on the shelf due to leverage and other factors.
Ferrous metals have a higher permeability than air which means magnetic field lines will concentrate more densely in ferrous metal.
Magnetic Sheilding
Magnetic Field lines don’t like to travel through air. They much prefer to concentrate in a ferrous material than spread out in air which is one way magnetic shielding is accomplished. If magnets are stuck to metal, the magnetic fields from that side of the magnet concentrates in the metal will very little extending past. We use this to our benefit as the metal bracket acts as a magnetic shield for that side of the magnets. Which means you can store your portable magnetic laptop shelf in a bag next to a laptop or tablet, just face the board side toward the electronic device and magnets other direction. This is really only a minor concern if using the 1/2” magnets, using the smaller magnets with better near field characteristics is really no practical concern of issues with magnetic fields interfering with electronic devices. I don’t recommend it but I have put the 1/4” and 1/8” magnet brackets directly on computers without any issues (video and pics soon). Once the magnetic bracket is mounted on a surface practically all the magnetism is shielded by the metal of the bracket and by the metal of the mounting surface. If still concerned about magnetic fields while storing or transporting magnet brackets you can use magnetic shielding bars.
(Pic laptop bag with board, maybe diptic or gallery old pic with new pic in back pack)
Magnetic Shielding Bars
Though I don’t use magnetic shielding bars on my Portable Magnetic Folding Shelves, I do use them when transporting my heavy duty magnetic brackets. Also on my diy magnet mounts for sensitive electronic equipment or cables as seen in my Work Station Build post: https://www.kevingittemeier.com/editing-workstation/ . A strip of metal sealed in Mounting Tape folded over works well for magnetic bracket shielding bars and the Mounting Tape acts as a cushion and spacer for easy removal.
(Pic diy shielding bars, one mounted one laying to side)
Plastic Poker Chips with metal inlays make great Magnetic Shields and I use on many super powerful magnets as seen here. For 1/2” magnet models with magnets only at the top and bottom, poker chips may be the better option.
(Pic old 1/2” models with poker chip)
FAQ
Q–Do you build these to sell them?
A-No, I don’t built “to” sell. See below
Like most of my builds, I designed and built these out of personal need because no such product existed at the time. I got in the Elevator Industry (IUEC) in 1999 and after watching frustrated mechanics hold laptops with no place to put them, I designed my first portable laptop shelf in the year 2000.
Q-Do you sell Brackets or Laptop Shelves, can I buy one from you?
A-Sometimes & Maybe. I don’t build items with the intent to sell them. Sometimes as I am fine tuning a build I will sell off variations to mitigate my monetary losses. Notice I said “mitigate losses” not maximize profits. In some builds a lot of material is purchased in R&D to see which works best. Those are loses I will not recoup, I have never broke even selling off variations of any build. Most purchases have been from co-workers & local members who want them really bad and either swipe their company credit card or expense it as a “specialty work tool” and I have swapped for tools and material (Milwaukee, Dewalt or Rigid Bins see here).
*See availability list below
Q-Can these magnets damage my computer or other equipment?
A-It’s possible but practically speaking, it’s unlikely with reasonable common sense precautions. Don’t directly place the magnets on sensitive equipment. If storing in a laptop bag, just store the laptop shelf with magnets facing away from the computer, towards outside of bag. This is really only a minor concern if using the 1/2” magnets, using the smaller 1/4” & 1/8” magnets with better near field characteristics is really no practical concern of issues with magnetic fields interfering with electronic devices. I don’t recommend it but I have put the 1/4” and 1/8” magnet brackets directly on computers without any issues (video and pics soon). Once the magnetic bracket is mounted on a surface practically all the magnetism is shielded by the metal of the bracket and by the metal of the mounting surface. If still concerned about magnetic fields while storing or transporting magnet brackets you can use magnetic shielding bars (see Magnetic Shielding above).
Q – Can I use different magnets? Can I use cup magnets?
A – Don’t! I highly recommend using the magnets I link in the exact configuration shown. It’s more work to mount cup magnets, it’s not as low profile and the magnet is more dangerous. See above about magnet fields.
Q – Can I use a different folding bracket?
A – Don’t! This is the lowest profile quality folding bracket I could find and I bought over $100 worth searching. Others had sharp edges, poor or no coating or they just weren’t low profile. These brackets are ferrous so the magnets stick to them, some aren’t which means only the glue holds the magnets to the bracket. The Folding Brackets and Magnet Configuration is what makes this shelf uniquely compact and light. If not for that just buy the Magbench, Utilishelf or Omnishelf.
Q – How much weight can each magnetic configuration hold?
A – More than a laptop! I may do a giveaway with the winner being the one who can guest the closest for all magnetic configurations. If interested in this giveaway idea comment below!
The current list of magnetic configurations is as follows:
1/2 x 1/2 x 1/16 Magnets 6 total per bracket.
1/2 x 1/2 x 1/16 Magnets 8 total per bracket.
1/4 x 1/4 x 1/32 Magnets 60 total per bracket.
1/8 x 1/8 x 1/32 Magnets 280 total per bracket.
Bracket Serial Numbers & Details
Bracket SN and data to track durability of magnet configurations, glue, prep and coatings over time. Not started until after model _024 Magnetic Shelf
Bracket SN | Bracket Magnets | Coats & Total | Coatings | Bracket Base Filler | Magnet Glue | Sanded Bracket Mag F/B |
001_1/4/32NPC7 | 1/4×1/32 (Wht) | 2 Wht 7 Clear (9) | Nail Polish / Clear | Clear GG 1.75 | Clear GG 1.75 | Y/Y/Y |
002_1/4/32P2A2C4 | 1/4×1/32 (Wht) | 2Pr 2Wht 4Clr (8) | Primer/Auto/Clear | Clear GG 1.75 | Clear GG 1.75 | Y/Y/Y |
003_1/4/32C7 | 1/4×1/32 (CLR) | 7 Clear Coats | Rustoleum Acrylic Enamel Paint+ Primer Gloss Clear | Clear GG 1.75 | Clear GG 1.75 | Y/Y/Y |
004_1/8/32C7 | 1/8×1/32 (CLR) | 7 Clear Coats | Rustoleum Acrylic Enamel Paint+ Primer Gloss Clear | Clear GG 1.75 | Clear GG 1.75 | Y/Y/Y |
005_1/4/32B3C3 (A&B) | 1/4×1/32 (WHT) | 3 Wht 3 Clr (6) | Behr Gloss White 52 Paint + Primer / Rust Clr | Clear GG 1.75 | Clear GG 1.75 | Y/Y/Y |
P = Primer (Etching Auto Primer)
A = for auto paint Duplicolor perfect match
B = Behr
R = Rustoleum
C = Clear Coat Gloss (I don’t use Matt bc too much friction)
Sanded Bracket and Front and Back of Magnets (Most Yes to all but may leave some unpainted unsanded magnets just to see).
Results immediately and over time
Bracket SN | Results Immediately | Results over time |
001_1/4/32NPC7 | Thick and uneven, must be sanded but very strong finish | |
002_1/4/32P2A2C4 | Primer or accelerant ate into glue | |
003_1/4/32C7 | Good | |
004_1/8/32C7 | Good | |
005_1/4/32B3C3 | Behr “Lifted” between coats and had to be sanded | |
General Coating Result Notes
Coating | Results Immediately | Results over time |
Electric Tape | Good and easiest to apply | Wrinkles & must be replaced periodically |
Nail Polish | Thick and uneven, must be sanded but very strong finish | TBD |
Nail Polish & Clear Coat | Good | TBD |
Auto Paint | Good | Chips at edges with hard use |
Auto Paint & Clear Coat | Good | TBD |
Behr P&P Gloss Wt 52 & Clr Coat | Behr Bad, lifted | TBD |
Krylon Fusion | Good | Didn’t hold up well |
Glue Poperties & Results
Glue | Properties | Results immediately & over time |
Gorilla Glue Clear Silicone | Flexible/Pliable | |
Clear GG 1.75 | ||
Super Glue | Hard/Brittle | |
Clear GG 1.75 = Clear Gorilla Glue 1.75 oz
Magnetic Shelf SN & Recipients List
Shelf Build Post: www.kevingittemeier.com/magnetic-shelf-v2/
Serial No. | Board | Model | Etchings | Magnet Configuration | Magnet Coating | Recipient |
KTFG_P1 | MS | Red Recessed | Bar Cub Magnets – 4 | Electric Tape | Kevin Gittemeier | |
KTFG_P2 | MS | Red Flat | SN WS2 IUEC.60 | 1/2×3/4×1/16 – 14 Full | Electric Tape | Kevin Gittemeier |
KTFG_001 | MS | Gray w/b Recessed | SN Initials | ??? | Electric Tape | David Luther |
KTFG_002 | MS | Red Flat | SN | 1/2×1/2 – ? 1/2×3/4 – ? | Electric Tape | Kevin Gittemeier |
KTFG_003 | MS | Aqua Recessed | SN Initials | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 | Electric Tape | Eric King |
KTFG_004 | MS | Gray w/b Flat 1/2 | SN Initials | ??? | Electric Tape | Fabian Bravo |
KTFG_005W | MS | Gray Flat 2/2 | SN Initials | ??? | Electric Tape | Fabian Bravo |
KTFG_006 | MS | Gray Recessed | SN Initials | ??? | ??? | Andrew Sauer |
KTFG_007 | FBR | White Flat/Flat | SN WS2 | 1/2×1/2 -6 1/2×3/4 -2 | Rustoleum Flat | For Sale $185 |
KTFG_008 | FBR | White Flat/Flat | SN WS2 | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 | Rustoleum Flat | Cole Bonno |
KTFG_009 | MS | Gray w/b Flat 1/2 | SN | ??? | ??? | Kevin Gittemeier |
KTFG_010W | MS | Gray Flat 2/2 | SN | ??? | ??? | Kevin Gittemeier |
KTFG_011 | MS | Blue Flat 1/2 | SN Initials IUEC.100 IUEC.50 | 1/2×1/2 -4 1/2×3/4 -4 | Auto Paint | Travis Hutcherson |
KTFG_012W | MS | Blue Flat 2/2 | SN Initials IUEC.100 IUEC.100 | 1/2×1/2 -4 1/2×3/4 -2 | Auto Paint | Travis Hutcherson |
KTFG_013 | MS | White w/b Flat | SN WS2 | 1/2×1/2 -6 1/2×3/4 -2 | Rustoleum Flat | Jake Waddell |
KTFG_014 | MS | Red Recessed | SN | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 | Electric Tape | Raul Ramos |
KTFG_015 | MS | White Flat | SN WS3 | Board Only | Not Built | |
KTFG_016 | MS | Gray Recessed | SN | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 ??? | Electric Tape | Bud Oneal |
KTFG_017 | MS | Red Recessed | SN Name | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 | Electric Tape | Jimmy Jones |
KTFG_018 | MS | Blue Recessed | SN | 1/4×1/4×1/32 – 80 | Rustoleum Flat | Kevin Gittemeier |
KTFG_019 | MS | Blue Recessed | SN2 WS3 IUEC.62 IUEC.100 | Board Only | Not Built | |
KTFG_020 | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | ??? | Missing |
KTFG_021 | Dex | Yellow Recessed | SN2 WS3 Name IUEC.50 | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 10* | Nail Polish | Tony Carter |
KTFG_022 | Dex | Green Recessed | SN2 WS2 Initials | 1/2×1/2×1/16 – 8 | Auto Paint | Frank Mellor III |
KTFG_023 | Dex | Blue Recessed | SN2 WS4 IUEC.100.2 | 1/4×1/4×1/32 – 60 | Auto Paint & Clear | Frank Mellor Jr |
KTFG_024 | Dex | Yellow Recessed | SN2 WS3 | 1/8×1/8×1/32 – 280 | Nail Polish | For Sale $205 |
KTFG_025 | Dex | Red Recessed | SN2 WS3 IUEC.62 IUEC.100 | Board Only | Not Built | |
KTFG_026 | Dex | Blue Recessed | SN2 WS2 IUEC.62 | Board Only | Not Built | |
KTFG_027 | Dex | Gray Recessed | SN2 WS2 | Board Only | Not Built | |
KTFG_028 | Dex | Gray Recessed | SN2 WS2 | Board Only | Not Built |
Shelf Build Post: www.kevingittemeier.com/magnetic-shelf-v2/
MS = Mainstays Recessed Board 11 x 14.5
Dex = Dexas Recessed Borad 11 x 14.5
MS/Dex = Either or. Dexas makes Mainstays for Walmart.
FBR = Faberware Basics Flat 11 x 14.
Recessed = Recessed Top
Flat = Flat Top
w/b = With Velcro Cable Bag
H = Hand Engraved
LE = Laser Engraved
W = Wide Brackets to stack in pairs
1/2 = 1 of 2 of Stackable Pair
2/2 = 2 of 2 of Stackable Pair
Flat/Flat = Both sides of board are flat (Faberware Basics)
NH = No handle (None built yet bc I like the handle)
SN# = Serial Number by number of times etched
WS# = My website Kevin Gittemeier .com by number of times etched
(etchings are on front and back)
Name = Recipients Name
Initials = Recipients Intials
IUEC.100 = IUEC Logo 100mm .2= 2 times (.50.2 = 50mm twice etc.)
1/2 x 1/2 and 1/2 x 3/4 magnets are 1/16 thick.
1/4 x 1/4 and 1/8 x 1/8 magnets are 1/32 think
Page 1: Overview & Step 1
Page 2: Step 2: Prepare & Glue Magnets
Page 3: Step 3: Magnet Coating
Page 4: Read More, FAQ, SN List
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Hi Kevin,
I’ve been looking for a way to add some more surface area to my camping set up and came across your folding magnetic tray and I knew that was the set up for me. Love the idea and love the detailed breakdown even more.
I’m planning on mounting the shelf to the side of my car on one of the passenger doors, however, the car has a slight contour at the height that I want the shelf to be at and the folding brackets would not be able to site completely flat. In order to avoid that I’m thinking of taking a contour gauge and using it to map the contour and then 3D print a mount that would be flat on one side and contoured on the other. I would basically glue/mount the 3D part between the bracket and the magnets.
Do you foresee any issue with this in terms of strength and/or adhesion of the glue on the magnets? I’m using PLA filament to print with which is pretty solid in terms of strength but I don’t know what the result will be relative to the gluing.
I’ll likely place some threaded holes into the 3D part so I can attach it to the bracket with some screws in order to avoid filling the holes on the bracket with glue. I’m also think of recessing the surface where the magnets sit so that it will be flush with the 3D piece and also make placement easier.
I’m not too worried about it being low profile as it will just be sitting in my car as opposed to me having to carry it around. Let me know what you think, any feedback is welcome. Alternatively, if you know of another method that would solve the contouring issue, I’m all ears.
Thanks!
Sorry for the delay, I just now saw this question.
I do think it would be difficult for magnet to stay glued to the 3d print. To overcome the contour you can just add magnets to the top and bottom of the bracket, leaving the middle empty. Since you don’t need it low profile you could use cup magnets, which you can mount tilted. But if not cup magnets I recommend 1/4″x1/4″ by 1/16″ or maybe even an 1/8″ thick if that’s enough to get over contour (rather than 1/2″x1/2 by 1/16 thick).
Let me know what you decide and how it works out.
If you like I can post of picture of it on the web post citing your work.
Man if you were to sell these I swear they’d sell like hotcakes
Thanks, I have sold many to co-workers and elevator mechanics in the area but they expense it to the company as a specialty company tool. Most people decide to build there own rather than pay out of packet the $150 minimum I charge. People generally underestimate the amount of time and effort it takesto complete a task or project.
Judging from the sales of brackets I estimate over 100 people have built folding shelves from these instructions or from my YouTube videos.